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Uiteraard blij als een klein kind in een speelgoedwinkel
Zo heerlijke complete set met alleen maar goed spul en Wax voor de komende 600 jaar
Wat zijn die gallons?
Stap maar in de auto hoor, ze staan allemaal voor je klaar!Yes ophaalmailtjes
Nog een mailtje en dan volgas naar Berkel
Yup idd @Xsara Coupe , @350Z zie bovenstaande , ja af en toe een ander waxje proberen vind ik leuk, heb alleen nog nergens kunnen lezen hoe lang waxjes goed blijven .
, ja af en toe een ander waxje proberen vind ik leuk, heb alleen nog nergens kunnen lezen hoe lang waxjes goed blijven .
Ik vermoed dat RS meer bedoeld hoe lang de wax in de container goed blijft om te smeren. Niet direct uit eigen ervaring, maar als je de wax koel en droog weg zet (dus niet in de zomerzon of vorst) dan moet een pot jaren meegaan.
Beetje gebaseerd op de theorie dat als een wax 4-6 maanden standtijd heeft en na anderhalf jaar niet meer te gebruiken zou zijn dan zou een 200ml pot een belachelijke hoeveelheid zijn voor 95 procent van de detailers.
Wel weer een mooi schema ferarie!
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@Istnogferarie Waar haal je de standtijden vandaan trouwens? Ik zie dat je de waxaddict edition 18 op 4-6 maanden schat, dubbel zolang als de vitreo terwijl op de waxaddict site de vitreo 4/5 sterren krijgt op durability tov 3/5 voor edition 18.
Beetje gebaseerd op de theorie dat als een wax 4-6 maanden standtijd heeft en na anderhalf jaar niet meer te gebruiken zou zijn dan zou een 200ml pot een belachelijke hoeveelheid zijn voor 95 procent van de detailers.
Wel weer een mooi schema ferarie!
Edit:
@Istnogferarie Waar haal je de standtijden vandaan trouwens? Ik zie dat je de waxaddict edition 18 op 4-6 maanden schat, dubbel zolang als de vitreo terwijl op de waxaddict site de vitreo 4/5 sterren krijgt op durability tov 3/5 voor edition 18.
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Bedankt voor de feedback @350Z en @Istnogferarie , bedoelde idd de houdbaarheid, dus eigenlijk ipv in de schuur(houten hok, dus winter vorstgevoelig) moeten de waxjes in huis bewaard worden?
Dank je @350Z
En misschien iets zoals dit @MeganeRS ? Dik gedrukt is het stuk over wax.
We sometimes get asked how long our products last in their containers, before they should be thrown away.
It's a tricky one, as storage conditions, ambient conditions and actual usage are huge variables - and all play their part in shelf life or product longevity.
The basic rule is that anything containing a solvent is going to expire when the solvent is substantially lost. So if you keep a wax with the lid off, it is going to last weeks or months. But a wax kept in a sealed ziplock bag is going to be fine a decade later. Remember that few containers are fully airtight... although they don't need to be. The surface area exposed to air will be the deciding factor in how fast the solvent disappears. A bottle with a narrow neck will show less solvent loss than a wide mouth jar.
The volatility of a solvent plays its part. Water isn't very volatile, but IPA is. So leave Lime Prime with the cap off and it'll be fine for weeks. But you'll find your Red Mist evaporating heavily, especially on a hot day.
Separation or 'clumping' of products with a high solids content can occur. Polishes are often the classic offender in car care terms and if you have ever seen paint that's gone solid on the bottom with a runny amber liquid above the crust, you'll know this effect. Sometimes stirring or shaking helps. Sometimes the product has changed too much. But regular use of a product is always good and a little shake does no harm, even if it may not be necessary with nicely suspended solids.
As for accessories, use is critical - as is maintenance. Some microfibres and mitts last for years FOR SOME PEOPLE. Other people find the same products last weeks at best. It depends how aggressive you are with the product and how well you maintain it. Leaving your foam machine polishing pads soaking overnight in detergent and then ripping them off the backing plate unsympathetically, before stopping them off the panel (where momentum tugs the backing away from the foam) is not a recipe for long lasting pads. Fully natural wash mitts are very finickerty. They can't be too wet or too dry. Regular use is best. Even then, a year is a good innings for them.
Here's a little guide to expected lifespans and shelf lives:
PASTE WAXES
30ml mini jars (panel pots) - SHORT TO MEDIUM (these should be used before 12 months for best results as the small amount of wax has a large surface area and the container isn't airtight). Put it in a ziplock bag to extend longevity. But 30ml is enough for 6 months to a year of waxing at most, so these are not long term waxes.
200ml-500ml jars - MEDIUM TO LONG. The solvent is a slow evaporating type. Keep away from extremes of temp, sunlight and especially high temps. They sweat solvent more in high temps. The container is not airtight. We reckon 2-5 years longevity, but you could double that in cooler climates if the lid is securely on and the wax isn't used much.
POLISHES - MEDIUM - these tend to be water based and not very volatile. They may separate and need a shake, but clumping should not occur. 2-3 years would be anticipated, assuming the lid is on.
SHAMPOOS - LONG - these should last for 3-4 years. They have no solid particles so can't clump and they are water based. Do not let them freeze. Keep them away from sunlight or the dye may fade, if the product is coloured.
LIQUID SEALANTS AND SPRAY SEALANTS - SHORT TO MEDIUM - these tend to be volatile and have a high solids content. They will often cure in their containers if not used. Some very volatile products would need to be used within 6 months. We would suggest products of this type are used within the year and certainly kept away from extremes of temperature. Ziplock bagging them is a good idea.
DETAIL SPRAYS - MEDIUM TO LONG - low solids, low evaporation rate, water as a solvent. These should last for 3-4 years. Again, keep away from extremes of temps and direct sunlight.
CLAY - MEDIUM - if kept in a sealed or semi-sealed container (doesn't need to be 100% airtight but helps if it is) these should last 1-2 years. The solvent isn't volatile at all. But they can still dry out if they get too hot or if leeched by detergents. Never leave a clay bar soaking in a lube. They are more likely to be chemically decomposed than by just being left in a container.
NATURAL WASH MITTS - SHORT - 6 months to a year is doing well. These need to be regularly used; a constant wet>drying>almost dry>wet cycle is best for them. Being left wet is bad and becoming totally dry is bad. If you get more than a year out of one, without any moulting or unstitching, you should become a shepherd. You have the knack.
SYNTHETIC WASH MITTS AND SPONGES - LONG - 2-4 years. Sponges will feather if used on rough surfaces (grilles etc) but a synthetic mitt is hardy and will not moult. A much easier proposition if natural mitts are too prone to self destruction for your liking.
MICROFIBRES - MEDIUM - plush microfibres tend to last a little less time than standard short pile types. But they can be washed and rewashed, and often tumble dried, with no ill effect. If drying towels lose absorption, dry clean them. They will simply be soaked in water repellent silicones etc and need a thorough solvent clean.
MACHINE POLISHERS - MEDIUM TO LONG - 2-10 years or more. This depends on use (or abuse). A body shop angling a rotary and using it 12 hours a day could get through the brushes (wear item) in 6 months and kill the machine within 18 months. A hobbyist will see a decade from one, with maybe brush replacement after 2-3 years.
En misschien iets zoals dit @MeganeRS ? Dik gedrukt is het stuk over wax.
We sometimes get asked how long our products last in their containers, before they should be thrown away.
It's a tricky one, as storage conditions, ambient conditions and actual usage are huge variables - and all play their part in shelf life or product longevity.
The basic rule is that anything containing a solvent is going to expire when the solvent is substantially lost. So if you keep a wax with the lid off, it is going to last weeks or months. But a wax kept in a sealed ziplock bag is going to be fine a decade later. Remember that few containers are fully airtight... although they don't need to be. The surface area exposed to air will be the deciding factor in how fast the solvent disappears. A bottle with a narrow neck will show less solvent loss than a wide mouth jar.
The volatility of a solvent plays its part. Water isn't very volatile, but IPA is. So leave Lime Prime with the cap off and it'll be fine for weeks. But you'll find your Red Mist evaporating heavily, especially on a hot day.
Separation or 'clumping' of products with a high solids content can occur. Polishes are often the classic offender in car care terms and if you have ever seen paint that's gone solid on the bottom with a runny amber liquid above the crust, you'll know this effect. Sometimes stirring or shaking helps. Sometimes the product has changed too much. But regular use of a product is always good and a little shake does no harm, even if it may not be necessary with nicely suspended solids.
As for accessories, use is critical - as is maintenance. Some microfibres and mitts last for years FOR SOME PEOPLE. Other people find the same products last weeks at best. It depends how aggressive you are with the product and how well you maintain it. Leaving your foam machine polishing pads soaking overnight in detergent and then ripping them off the backing plate unsympathetically, before stopping them off the panel (where momentum tugs the backing away from the foam) is not a recipe for long lasting pads. Fully natural wash mitts are very finickerty. They can't be too wet or too dry. Regular use is best. Even then, a year is a good innings for them.
Here's a little guide to expected lifespans and shelf lives:
PASTE WAXES
30ml mini jars (panel pots) - SHORT TO MEDIUM (these should be used before 12 months for best results as the small amount of wax has a large surface area and the container isn't airtight). Put it in a ziplock bag to extend longevity. But 30ml is enough for 6 months to a year of waxing at most, so these are not long term waxes.
200ml-500ml jars - MEDIUM TO LONG. The solvent is a slow evaporating type. Keep away from extremes of temp, sunlight and especially high temps. They sweat solvent more in high temps. The container is not airtight. We reckon 2-5 years longevity, but you could double that in cooler climates if the lid is securely on and the wax isn't used much.
POLISHES - MEDIUM - these tend to be water based and not very volatile. They may separate and need a shake, but clumping should not occur. 2-3 years would be anticipated, assuming the lid is on.
SHAMPOOS - LONG - these should last for 3-4 years. They have no solid particles so can't clump and they are water based. Do not let them freeze. Keep them away from sunlight or the dye may fade, if the product is coloured.
LIQUID SEALANTS AND SPRAY SEALANTS - SHORT TO MEDIUM - these tend to be volatile and have a high solids content. They will often cure in their containers if not used. Some very volatile products would need to be used within 6 months. We would suggest products of this type are used within the year and certainly kept away from extremes of temperature. Ziplock bagging them is a good idea.
DETAIL SPRAYS - MEDIUM TO LONG - low solids, low evaporation rate, water as a solvent. These should last for 3-4 years. Again, keep away from extremes of temps and direct sunlight.
CLAY - MEDIUM - if kept in a sealed or semi-sealed container (doesn't need to be 100% airtight but helps if it is) these should last 1-2 years. The solvent isn't volatile at all. But they can still dry out if they get too hot or if leeched by detergents. Never leave a clay bar soaking in a lube. They are more likely to be chemically decomposed than by just being left in a container.
NATURAL WASH MITTS - SHORT - 6 months to a year is doing well. These need to be regularly used; a constant wet>drying>almost dry>wet cycle is best for them. Being left wet is bad and becoming totally dry is bad. If you get more than a year out of one, without any moulting or unstitching, you should become a shepherd. You have the knack.
SYNTHETIC WASH MITTS AND SPONGES - LONG - 2-4 years. Sponges will feather if used on rough surfaces (grilles etc) but a synthetic mitt is hardy and will not moult. A much easier proposition if natural mitts are too prone to self destruction for your liking.
MICROFIBRES - MEDIUM - plush microfibres tend to last a little less time than standard short pile types. But they can be washed and rewashed, and often tumble dried, with no ill effect. If drying towels lose absorption, dry clean them. They will simply be soaked in water repellent silicones etc and need a thorough solvent clean.
MACHINE POLISHERS - MEDIUM TO LONG - 2-10 years or more. This depends on use (or abuse). A body shop angling a rotary and using it 12 hours a day could get through the brushes (wear item) in 6 months and kill the machine within 18 months. A hobbyist will see a decade from one, with maybe brush replacement after 2-3 years.
Ah das mooie info @Istnogferarie , dus in de koelkast stoppen voor langer levensduur , denk dat ik ruzie krijg met het meissie .
, denk dat ik ruzie krijg met het meissie .
Of een eigen koelkast aanschaffen voor in de schuur. Meteen bier en bitterballen erbij.
TV neerzetten, lekker bankje, frituurpan, vaatwasser. Fijn leventje dan in de schuur hoor.
Ooh damn zo heb ik het op de vaatwasser na...
TV neerzetten, lekker bankje, frituurpan, vaatwasser. Fijn leventje dan in de schuur hoor.
Ooh damn zo heb ik het op de vaatwasser na...
Thuisbezorgd punt nl en appie bezorgen ook aan huis, wel even vermelden achter het huis bij de schuur afleveren aub, mooi leven dan
Ik had de schuur zo gemaakt voor de vrouw maar in de winter vond ze het te koud....
Voor iedereen: dat naleveren vanaf 23 september was een GEINTJE! Dus niet meer bellen, mailen, appen hierover.
Ook zijn we niet op vakantie. We zijn gewoon hard aan het werk hier!
@Dibbuz wat een waardeloos advies die olijfolie als zonnebrand.
Ook zijn we niet op vakantie. We zijn gewoon hard aan het werk hier!
@Dibbuz wat een waardeloos advies die olijfolie als zonnebrand.
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